In mid 2007, I had extensive contact with Detective Constable Paul Rogers of the London Metropolitan Police. Police believe 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater might have been a victim of a notorious serial killer when she was raped and murdered in 1946. However, what happened to Jones once he left Wandsworth jail in December 1941, aged 35, remains a mystery. Margaret went out into the yard and her and Muriel exchanged waves. The Welsh policehave also examined connections between Muriels case and a second murder that occurred a mere ten days after she was killed. I personally think whoever did it was a true psychopath and he would probably of done something like it before and has done other crimes since. Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the 12-year-old had been killed amongst the undergrowth at Penllergaer Woods whilst on her way home from school one June afternoon. Muriel Jean Drinkwater Birth unknown Death 1983 Burial. We know 100% that it is the killer's stain. [6] On 27 June 1946, Muriel took the school bus home from Gowerton Grammar School. Muriel Drinkwater - Swansea, 1946 On 27th June 1946, Margaret Drinkwater was making tea in the family farm house in Penllegaer near Swansea when she looked out of the window to see her daughter . On 29 August 2021, I sent the following email to Freedom Of Information at South Wales Police. Muriel Drinkwater was a young Welsh schoolgirl. Mr Hall, who was intrigued by the unsolved crime, says friends of Muriel remember her as the ``perfect pupil''. Wales documentary screened at 10.30pm on Sunday 8 November 2020 spent a full 5 minutes suggesting that 2 books found in a Carmarthen bookshop recently had been taken from Muriels schoolbag in 1946 as trophies by the killer. Her blue coat, underwear and school uniform had been wrapped in a paper bag and stored. South Wales Police's Specialist Crime Review Unit has today finally ruled out Jones - who died from cancer in 1971 - from their investigation. Business class plane passenger refuses to give up his seat so a man could sit next to his wife on her birthday - selfish or fair enough? Is it possible that scientists could examine Muriels coat and find another profile that could be compared to Jones daughters D.N.A.? The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. Farm Heroes Saga, the #4 Game on iTunes. "I have spoken to Muriel's family and bring them up to date with the latest details of this investigation. 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Detective Chief Inspector Mark Lewis, head of the South Wales Polices Specialist Crime Review Unit announced to the press in May 2019: The results of the forensic examination categorically confirm that Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. On the afternoon of Muriels murder, thirteen-year-old Hoyles purchased eggs from Muriels mother at their family farm. Due to advances in forensic technology, we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule out Harold Jones completely as a suspect in this case.. She was was found murdered in 1980 in a field in Dixon, CA. I am leaning towards it being a targeted attack, in part because of the positioning of the perpetrator as you mentioned. He can't understand why people would think he killed them. There was a camp a mile away in Grovesend. South Wales Police said: "All historic murder cases, often referred to in the media as cold cases, are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. Martin well remembers a young girl who was "always full of life" and would always be skipping and singing. The authorities went as far as to suggest that someone in the Penllergaer region knows about the murder weapon but is protecting the owner by withholding information. Muriels nieces family took the books to the bookshop after Muriels brother-in-law died last year. 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Hi Neil Born in the summer of 1933, she was the youngest of four children and lived with her parents Percy and Margaret on a small farm called Tyle-Du, near http://www.tcbmediarights.com/screeners/dark_son.html. <p>The school bus dropped Muriel Drinkwater at her usual stop, leaving her to walk the last part of her journey home to the family farm in Penllergaer, West Wales. Just put my name in Facebook bar. ", Muriel Drinkwater who was killed in June 1946. It was the first time he had spoken publicly about the tragedy that haunts his family to this day. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. However, in 2008, a team of retired detectives investigating cold cases found Drinkwater's clothes in storage. The 12-year-old attended Gowerton County The police statement that Jones was ruled out is a misleading statement. I received the following letter from D.C. Paul Rogers on 6 December 2007. She was seen by her mother from a distance of 400 yards away, but before Muriel could arrive home, she was murdered. As always you can unsubscribe at any time. Two months too young to face the gallows, he was sent to Usk Prison where he sensationally confessed to the first killing, blaming the voice of a 'demon' in his head. Who killed 'Little Red Riding Hood'? She was still wearing her school uniform. Hoyles told police that the man looked terribly stern and had a local accent. Although this person of interest could have just been out for hike or involved in some other unrelated nefarious activity, the authorities believe that he may have been in involved in Muriels murder. People had forgotten it was there. "We had access to the files and identified that a semen stain had been found on the coat. Im not sure how much of a farming business the family had or if they just casually sold eggs like many people in the country do. She was singing . My enquiries are now complete and have led me to believe that Harold Jones would have presented a danger to young girls throughout his life All relevant information has now been presented to South Wales Police, Major Crime Review Unit,who are currently in the process of making further inquiries into the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. Was a local stalking Muriel? "This was a terrible, terrible crime that someone has got away with for too long. left on the coat was compared to D.N.A. Her body was eventually found in a nearby lane, but it was the discovery of her handkerchief in the shops shed which saw Jones accused and stand trial for her death. Some time after speaking to D.S Lloyd-Evans, D.N.A. Video, 00:01:00One-minute World News, WATCH: Key moments from PM's NI Brexit deal speech. Thank you so much for this detailed update. The 73-year-old stain was discovered during a cold case review in 2003 and is thought to be one of the oldest pieces of evidence in the world. On 27th June 1946 a school girl was walking through countryside on her way home. I appealed that decision and was then informed that as the information I requested was kept in paper format in various locations in South Wales then it would be too costly and time-consuming to check out so the request was denied. Roll on another 2 months for a denied request. If you have any new information I would be extremely interested to hear it! Police records from the time show that Muriel's mother was the last person to see her alive. Investigators now allege theyve identified her murderer. "We realise whoever did this might be dead, but if he is alive and in his 80s or even 90s we would like to see him behind bars," said Muriel's great-niece Claire Phillips, speaking about developments last October. [8] Scientists successfully retrieved a DNA profile from this stain. The savage nature of the attack stands out from other rapes. request regarding the unsolved murder of 12 year-old Muriel Drinkwater near Swansea in June 1946. Casey DeSantis says Ron looked like Tom Cruise in his white Navy uniform when then got married at Disney: Florida's First Family says venue was an 'ironic' choice, Ron DeSantis claims former Disney CEO Bob Chapek privately complained to him about the 'pressure' he was under from woke Left to wade in on Florida's 'Don't say gay' bill. So with that revelation the re-opened inquiry could have cost 15 million or more as did the Gwent Police inquiry into the disgraced former Abertillery care home owner Dr Dana Pras. Jones was ruled out at the beginning of May, 2019. [7], The next day, Drinkwater's body was found in the woods by a police inspector. I was able to edit the comment for you before it went live. Jones D.N.A was not compared to the D.N.A left on Muriels coat by the killer. Regards. Thanks for reading and for taking the time to share your thoughts. And four months after Jones left the army Muriel was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea. "All historic murder cases, or 'cold cases', are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. Follow. Sometimes the rumours and suspicion in these unsolved cases does almost as much damage to the community as the crime itself. The Photo Request has been fulfilled. We use your sign-up to provide content in the ways you've consented to and improve our understanding of you. [8], Last edited on 11 February 2023, at 09:11, List of unsolved murders in the United Kingdom, "Marwolaeth merch yn parhau'n ddirgelwch", "The Muriel Drinkwater case: can they crack the coldest murder case? Police believed 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater (left) might have been a victim of a notorious serial killer Harold Jones when she was raped and murdered in 1946. Harries was hanged in 1954 for the double murder of John and Phoebe Harries. DNA was found on evidence & matched a man already in prison. She was hoping in her lifetime to find out who killed her aunt. [8][4], In 2003, detectives re-opened the case in the hope of finding DNA evidence on the gun, but were not successful as too many people had handled the weapon. He agreed to give a DNA sample that could rule out Muriel's father from the investigation. Fingers crossed that one day a DNA match can give us the breakthrough needed to solve this case. We also may change the frequency you receive our emails from us in order to keep you up to date and give you the best relevant information possible. A familial DNA profile was extracted using a technique called Y-STR, but no match was found in the national DNA database. "Given the sheer level of violence that he inflicted on his own relatives, I can't quite believe that this would be the first instance of his violence.". Her eyes were wide open and her skin was deathly white. Just before his execution, Harries gave an extraordinary interview to the tabloid press from his jail cell. [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample in the world to be successfully extracted in a murder investigation. The police have DNA but keep any results they may have a closely guarded secret. Twelve-year-old Muriel Drinkwater was a choirgirl who dreamed of being a schoolteacher. South Wales Police some years ago announced that a potential suspect Hubert Hoyles had been cleared of Muriels death through DNA profiling. Muriel Drinkwater was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea, Serial killer Harold Jones (pictured as a 15-year-old) killed two young girls when he was just 15 and was jailed for 20 years. And shockingly the reply was that the information I requested was in written format and would take at least 16 hours at a cost of more than 450 to supply and my request was denied. The team tracked down Harries' cousin Lynn Hughes who described how the only child had been "spoilt" by his parents and was very "childish". Her parents Harold and Muriel Jones/Stevens kept a lot of secrets from this daughter one of which may be that she wasnt Harolds daughter. You are talking about 74 years ago now and nothing has been able to close the matter.". The police think that Hoyles, who as mentioned above passed Muriel on her way home, encountered Muriels killer weeks before her death. Just a few weeks short of her 13th birthday, Muriel had been beaten on the crown of her head with an object, raped and then shot twice in the . Now, a team of former detectives and crime experts have re-investigated the case, dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', and have uncovered a new prime suspect. Thanks again ~ Christine, Your email address will not be published. Police believed 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater might have been a victim of a known serial killer when she was raped and murdered in 1946. He clearly wasn't very bright, and there's evidence that you see of overkill with Muriel Drinkwater's case as well.". If information comes in from the public or other forces we act on it. The perpetrator left cigarette stubs, sweet wrappers, and pieces of bread at the scene of the crime, which the authorities have said indicates that he was waiting in the dense woods for his chance to strike. programme called Crime Secrets presented by H.T.Vs Jonathan Hill. He could possibly be a rival farmer and or business owner, we can tell the Drinkwaters run a business due to the fact that Hoyles bought eggs from Margaret Drinkwater, near to the death of Muriel Drinkwater. On this occasion he was rude to me claiming that he knew nothing about any information sent to South Wales Police from D.C. Paul Rogers. I am in regular contact with a niece of Muriel Drinkwater who has told me that members of her family gave South Wales Police samples of their D.N.A.. Photo added by Tracey. "Looking through the paper work, we could see the materials had left the crime scene, where it had gone, where it had been examined. Although the profile was loaded into the UK National DNA Database, it failed to match any of the approximately five million DNA records held there. You will need a male dna profile from a decendent on harold joness family tree. Thank you for all your assistance in this matter, the information you have provided has proved to be very helpful. If the perpetrator was lying in wait as I believe he was, why select that certain spot? But they said the results now ruled out Jones as a suspect in her murder. On June 27, 1946, 12-year-old Muriel Drinkwater made her way home from school in Penllergaer, Swansea (UK). Regards. Hi Neil. I am making a F.O.I. Neil Milkins. Why on earth would the police continue to stonewall after all these decades? Thanks again and take care. "Due to advances in forensic technology we have been able to look again at evidence from the murder in 1946 and I am now able to rule him out completely as a suspect in this case. 2023 BBC. Her killer has never been caught and it remains among the most notorious unsolved murders in Welsh history you can read more of them here. Her name was written in copper plate, Muriel J Drinkwater, and they were examined by the forensic expert who did some incredible work for us, and was able to find this full crime stain on the back of Muriel's little school mac. She goes to grammar school. DNA was taken from the relatives of both Muriel and Ronnie Harries but the results have not been made public. A village-wide search was swiftly underway, and at 4:30PM the following day Muriels body was located in a Japanese larch plantation near her home. A moment later, Muriels path wound into a thickly wooded area, and her mother returned to her chores in the kitchen. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. Police and soldiers search the area for clues of Muriel's murder, A picture of Muriel's schoolmates with flowers for her grave, Freda Burnell (left) and Florence Little (right) - Jones' first victims, At 35-years-old Jones is released from prison, only to vanish. "If information comes in from the public or other forces we act on it.". Regards. There were soldiers still in the area after the war and they used to train in Penllergaer woods. Hi Neil. They had been regular churchgoers, but stopped going to church and moved away from the farm within two years of the murder. Jones was only 15 when he killed eight-year-old Freda Burnell, who'd been sent by her father to buy bird seed from the store where Jones was working. Dear Sir/Madam. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); (function($) {window.fnames = new Array(); window.ftypes = new Array();fnames[1]='FNAME';ftypes[1]='text';fnames[2]='LNAME';ftypes[2]='text';fnames[0]='EMAIL';ftypes[0]='email';fnames[3]='ADDRESS';ftypes[3]='address';fnames[4]='PHONE';ftypes[4]='phone';}(jQuery));var $mcj = jQuery.noConflict(true); Liked it? Lets deduce, her killer was obviously male, or were they, unless they had extracted the sperm from another person it is definite that they are a male, so we have a male, s/ that narrows it down. Request number 772/21. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. Hard to work out the logic of your comment Charlotte? But in 2003, when the case was reopened for review, forensics experts found a semen stain found on Muriel's coat. Jones and his wife Muriel hid a lot of secrets from their daughter and one of these secrets may have been Jones wasnt her father. Video, 00:01:00At the crash site of 'no hope' - BBC reporter in Greece, Dog found alive after 23 days under rubble. [5], Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest of four daughters born to John Percival and Margaret (ne Morgans) Drinkwater. Joseph James DeAngelo, the suspected Golden State Killer, The real waking the dead: This schoolgirls savage murder has mystified police for 62 years. An amazing campaign by Neil Milkins, but unfortunately, no breakthrough for Muriel. I have a special interest in this case as I too was brought up in Penllergaer. She may or may NOT have been Jones biological daughter. 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