His wife is also a member, he will appear again, he survives long using the same method as most of the Shard, and they did not know about the Cosmere in their books. Book signing, Stuttgart, Germany, 5/17/19, Starsight Release Party, Orem, UT, 11/26/19. Spook was Lord Mistborn, Breeze was his advisor, and Ham had his family. Last week, Alice and Megan took a hard look at all of the secret societies operating on Roshar. Remember that BS promised the friend whom Demoux is named for that N/A WebHoid is a character who appears in Brandon Sanderson's Mistborn series. Brandon has addressed Worldhopping; essentially, there are three ways Worldhoppers are able to do what they do: 1) Some are functionally immortal. Answering Kelsier's call for a man who will defend the honor of the rebellion Demoux immediately stepped forward as one of several, being singled out by Kelsier to fight the dissenter Bilg. They may be young and loud but Wanaka band Powder Chutes is making people stand up and listen. I will have to do some digging. I've occasionally wondered if there's some kind of Aon equivalent that mimics not the geography of Arelon, but the Cosmere at large. Many have stayed in the Cognitive Realm, coexisting with spren and developing towns, cities, and cultures. He RAFOed a later question about her being a feruchemist. The only possible exception would be travelers from Sel. Can't remember if Raoden glowed less in Sarene's country. Chaotic Good Is it said anywhere that Worldhopping has to be tied to the particular magic system of their world? For Scadrial, what about the possibility of a metal similar to a bendaloy that let's you create a distance bubble, essentially teleport. Despite rain the past two days, Niwa warns the region is not out of the woods yet and authorities are urging caution as tinder [td_block_social_counter facebook=tagdiv twitter=tagdivofficial youtube=tagdiv style=style8 td-social-boxed td-social-font-icons tdc_css=eyJhbGwiOnsibWFyZ2luLWJvdHRvbSI6IjM4IiwiZGlzcGxheSI6IiJ9LCJwb3J0cmFpdCI6eyJtYXJnaW4tYm90dG9tIjoiMzAiLCJkaXNwbGF5IjoiIn0sInBvcnRyYWl0X21heF93aWR0aCI6MTAxOCwicG9ydHJhaXRfbWluX3dpZHRoIjo3Njh9 custom_title=Stay Connected block_template_id=td_block_template_8 f_header_font_family=712 f_header_font_transform=uppercase f_header_font_weight=500 f_header_font_size=17 border_color=#dd3333], Mt Benger proves why the shows must go on, Sanford wins by-election, low turnout a concern. Hrm, suffixes seem to be a purely male trait in Vorin culture among the lighteyes I can't think of any woman who has one, unless we count the "i" in Navani. He later added that she is to be found inWarbreaker, but I cannot remember where that quote is to be found. The creation of Harmony must have attracted the attention of the 17th shard (if they weren't watching even before), and likely they looked for potential recruits among those closest to the events. Draw an animated lobster and I bet Friends/Allies However, he is far too crafty to make it that easy to catch him. Worlds may ever push to expand their borders, seeing opportunity in the lands of beyond. More interesting than their fruitless search for Hoid is who they are. But the events of Wok happened hundreds of years after the events of HoA. Is it possible he had gone off Scadrial before the ending of TFE? Who knows, but it would be interesting for Demoux girlfriend to also be a worldhopper. Do-Gooder Also how in the heck would he access shadesmar being just a seer? Hammond | As an atium misting he would be pretty much powerless since there's no more atium in the cosmere for him to use as it was all used up at the battle of the pits. Seems unlikely. And he's a more central character than Demoux. Demox could have gotten that, or even had some left over. Sorry, title should say "Theories" not "Stories.". If nothing else, a medallion would make him anAtium Ferring for awhile (Nicrosil minds seem to be slow to run out), and Kelsier would probably replace it as needed. If you get too close to large amounts of matter or large amounts of Investiture, you will have time dilation. In fact, hes working with the Ire, the faction of Elantrians who interacted with Kelsier inMistborn: Secret History. They do not age. Knowing how loyal Demoux is, he Felt is a worldhopper, and has been a member of various groups over the years. I edited out the 4 questions not pertaining to the point. A warning as always: This series will contain spoilers for all of the Cosmere books published so far. Community Software by Invision Power Services, Inc. On 27/04/2018 at 8:46 PM, king of nowhere said. Demoux is revealed to be a preacher for the Church of the Survivor. Even as the world neared WebHide/Show Additional Information For Roemello Walton Wide Receiver WR 5'11" 190 lbs. Though Kelsier attempts to kill Bilg through Demoux, Demoux resists, and Kelsier soon changes his mind, allowing Bilg to live. It speeds or slows the passage of time relative to absolute time for a small bubble. There is this one, where he RAFOed it, but he clarified later on, if I remember correctly. Some of them are using tricks of *searches for correct word* relativistic time travel to move forward in the future. I just read Elantris and I must say I find it really weird that in the interlude grump, who I'm assuming is galladon, isn't described as glowing as he should be as an elantrian. For all we know, this could be only years following the re-structuring of Scadrial and the rise of Sazed as Harmony. It's supposed to be quite difficult on Sel, most theories for Scadrial involve one of the god metals being involved, no idea of how it could work on Nalthis except potentially the flowers being involved. I think SH will become part of Arcanum Unbound, the Cosmere collection that will come out later this year. Worldhopper before or after she met Demoux? According to Brandon, Felt has changed his allegiance several times. Yeah, you have an excellent point. But it doesn't make sense to me. Unknown. How about in the Cognitive Realm? Felt from Mistborn is also a possible worldhopper in WoR. I've given subtle clues about her before, but the ethnicity of the name should strike you. Q. Steris Harms | Ward departs Lubbock with three years remaining on her contract that was signed in October 2020; she was a late hire that cycle and signed a five-year deal at the Wayne | Elend Venture | In truth, Kelsier had just guided Demoux's sword with Allomantic Pushes and Pulls. Attributes and AbilitiesEdit. When his companions begin to argue, he notices Ishikk listening in and directs the others to move their discussion to another language. Knowing how loyal Demoux is, he Who knows, though? Knights Radiant | Giving us the mover, the tracker, and the fighter (blunt). So how could I get my hands on a copy of white sand? -M-NUva. Just a thought. The Seventeenth Shard is the only operating group of Worldhoppers of which readers know for sure. Worldhopping could take you outside of time, so the whole time difference isn't necessarily a problem. I thought that was just a theory. Something to keep in mind ), Lets head away from Nalthis now. She of the fancy mask is descended from the Malwish, the inhabitants of the southern hemisphere on Scadrial. New Zealand. PS: I didn't read Secret History, does anyone know if it is in another format than Ebook? That's gonna be Galladon. Combine this suffix insight with the start of the names resemblance to the Rosharan planet Ashyn and we might have both the beginning and an end of the name connected to The Roshar system. Felt is also on Roshar, so maybe they left at a similar time. The only reference I can find to it is from the "What Non-Rosharan Would Like to See On Roshar Thread". I know that one of them was Galladon from Elantris and another was Demeaux from the Mistborn trilogy. Since interplanetary (and interstellar) space is pretty much empty of thought, it is condensedgreatly in Shadesmar, creating a solid surface and avenues of travel between worlds. There is an article by Chris Lough on Worldhoppers here. http://www.17thshard.com/forum/topic/7365-felt-the-worldhopper/?hl=%2Bfelt+%2Bworldhopper. The Final Empire was a pretty terrible place to be if you weren't nobility. Some individuals know that the dangers of ideas are real in the Cognitive Realm. Baon wondered if there So, while Wit has important business to be about on Roshar, he has priorities elsewhere, too. The love interest ended up being a terriswoman making eyes at him at the end of HoA. Yes, with an asterisk. Wit may be helping the Good Guys, but hes by no means an entirely virtuous person. They restore order and lend organization to the Terris people who had been flooded with refugees. He could have gotten a Feruchemy medallion from Kell. The Alethi lord is speaking with an ardent who uses the word soil and promises to be in touch with Hatham. I always thought that since Demoux was already an Atium misting, he was halfway to Lord Ruler style immortality through Atium compounding. How do Worldhoppers communicate on all the cosmere worlds? The fact that Brandon even highlighted the fact that the ethnicity of the name is off suggests that it's probably offworld, with -din suggesting Rohsar. showing up on Roshar, the natural question is, how did they manage that? [10] Brandon promised him that the character would survive and get a girl. The mistfallen are sorted into their own company due to the superstition and hatred directed towards them by the other soldiers, resulting in a brawl where a man named Bilg punches the general and is executed for it. Wasn't there someone in the final battle on the plains who was a world hopper? I don't really think it sounds Terris, but I might be wrong. Press J to jump to the feed. Kelsier's Crew | Tindwyl | Not every character needs to have special abilities to be special. And there is still some Atium. Believing he is a kandra disguised as Demoux, she follows him through the streets of Luthadel when he sneaks out of Keep Venture. Most of the time, no. So I read a WoB that says caption demoux from the Mistborn series is "thinker" from the interlude about the members of the 17th shard chasing hoid. I think it has something to do with traveling through Shadesmar. The way that 'Y' is used in the name is perhaps what's making it feel a bit Terris, because of Tindwyl, though I think on further examination it's actually got more of a Thaylen feel (they really like agglomerations of consonants followed by 'Y' or 'I' sounds even more then the Terris). As Alice and Megan covered in their recent article on Secret Societies of Roshar, the Ghostbloods include multiple members who are worldhoppers. Is she connected to his reasons for becoming a member of the Seventeenth Shard? Marasi Colms | Um it's not a planet. In Chapter 54, Gibletish, Dalinar approaches Brightlord Hatham for a discussion. But why would he choose demoux to be a worldhopper? Dalinar Kholin | RadiantNights, January 9, 2014. is, he wouldn't just leave Aslydin behind like that. When he ventures into the mists for the first time, he is stricken down by them, becoming one of the mistfallen. You can correctly. Aslydin (wife) She, like Vasher, speaks with strange turns of phrase and is tied to a different kind of Shardblade. Does this also mean that Drabs cant be worldhopper since they have no investment? With some Given Harmony's mention of Adonalsium, my current theory is that he is, somehow, involved with however Demoux got involved with the 17th Shard. Baon was accompanied by Galladon and Demoux. Yep, (most of) the Heralds are worldhoppers. Wyndle. WebCurrency. I would think if any Terris person became aware of worldhopping, there'd have been a kind of Underground Railroad thing going on to draw away a large number of people to somewhere they wouldn't be forced into breeding programs, made into eunuchs or into broodmares like Tindwyl was. He is the leader of the grasshoppers and Flik's arch-nemesis. There are others in many other Cosmere stories, including a few that we see people actually go through during those stories. A: Is there a planet in the cosmere where Worldhopping is common knowledge. Hoid predates Shards and so does the letter recipient. Demoux had enough contact with the crew to make him memorable, but unless he became more involved in Survivorism, he didn't have a major role to do. While Mraize was born on Roshar, he has spent considerable time elsewhere in the Cosmereas his collection inWords of Radiance can attest. Assisted by Kelsier's Allomancy, Demoux wins the fight and Kelsier seizes the moment to invigorate his troops by proclaiming that Demoux had the arcane arts the Lord Ruler possessed, that they all might possess. Sylphrena | New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Q. In The Hero of Ages, Demouxgets together with a woman named Aslydin. The -din suffix in particular suggests a Rosharan origin to the name. Demoux is a worldhopper and he is on Roshar in Wok. Demoux is promoted to a general under Elend in the New Empire some time after Ruin's release at the Well of Ascension. He's then seen on Roshar in The Way of Kings. However, subtlety is often a more powerful tool in making things happen. And those are three separate things among characters you have actually seen. Q. Terris names do use the 'in' sound in the end of the name at times, but in thosecases it's usually something like -wyn, with the 'y' instead of the 'i'. The philosophers of the various worlds often discuss the dangers and natures of ideas among a population. Like Demoux, Felt is a character from the firstMistborntrilogy: He was one of House Ventures chief spies during the events of The Final Empire, and helps Elend track Vin back to the crew hideout at Clubs shop. I can actually understand why people think Jasnah may be a worldhopper, but I think that if she is, she will be one in the future, if at all. When Yeden decided to attack a fortified position, others stayed back at the cave believing this was not Kelsier's wish. Evil Librarian, Just Some Guyn From Silverlight. Hoid is a skaa informant who seeks to sell information to anyone who would pay him for it. Because most of the time what you're doing is you're leaving a planet and going into the Cognitive Realm, where for the most part you're going to have the same sort of feelings of gravity and then you are walking slowly through Shadesmar to another place and you're not even noticing the minute changes. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. Aslydin is in the Seventeeth Shard, and had her own work to be about. I think there must be someway of world hopping that involves magic that predates the Shards and involves magic we've never seen. Is there a planet within the cosmere where Worldhopping is common knowledge? Vin | OreSeur | Oh I hadn't thought of that, he has also said we've seen Rosharan worldhoppers before without knowing it so that's possible. If the compression effect of bendalloy and cadmium is assumed to be the same 8 to 1 ratio, a week in a CadBubble would propel one forward two months. First met inOathbringer, Highmarshal Azure was in charge of the defense of Kholinar as the Fused and their singer minions attacked Alethkar. There is time dilation. Anyway, it's just really surprising we didn't spot Vasher as a potential worldhopper before WoR was released*shrug*. Before the fight, Hammond confides to Kelsier that while Demoux's fighting abilities are not great, he is a trustworthy man but he is no match for Bilg in a fair fight. Yep, (most of) the Heralds are worldhoppers. Yeden, Stormlight Archive In some cases, like in my Cosmere Primer, Ill be drawing on Words of Brandon (WoBs) for further information. I think there's a WoB saying that Demoux is a 17th because of his wife (the terris one in the end of HoA), so the question would rather be: how his wife became a member of the 17th? WebDemoux fights a man who believes that Kelsier's rebellion will fail during the first book, and is helped by Kelsier's Allomancy. I am quite certain that WoB states that Atium has nothing to do with it. i wouldn't count jasnah in the list, because she's native from roshar, and while her power is very close to worldhopping (and she may as well become one) it still is not the same thing - else the osmere would be filled with elsecaller worldhoppers from the time the radiants were plentyful. Theres really nowhere else we can start, is there? Many Americans favored to see such landmarks as the "American dream" and "American freedom" embodied in countries with older cultural Wanaka, 9305 Maybe she dragged Demoux into it. A community to discuss the fantasy series The Stormlight Archive by Brandon Sanderson, along with other Cosmere-related works. The unassuming lighthouse keeper and fortune teller in Shadesmar gave himself away as a worldhopper several times over inOathbringer. ah ok thanks! I wonder if we're ever gunna see any misting powers or aonDor on Roshar. More curious to see if I missed one/a few. I don't think being an atium misting specifically makes you a better worldhopper though. This topic is highly amusing to me. On top of that, theyre some of the few people on Roshar who have also been to Braize, the third inhabitable planet in the Rosharan system and the home base of Odium. Today, I am going to ask you a simple question: How do you think Demoux became cosmere aware and a worldwhopper. Characters from essentially every other world have shown up on Roshar, which means we have an extensive list to cover today! Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. I think I found the WoB you were talking about. Worldhoppers' time is going to pass normally unless they can stay near large collections of Investiture. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Family I could imagine using such a "super-Aon" to worldhop, though it can't be easy--you'd need a knowledge of cosmic layout that you'd be hard-pressed to gain without radio telescopes. Here's the topic where Felt the Worldhopper of House Venture was discovered (or the possible worldhopper, that is). Or, if that is mentioned elsewhere in the forums, can you point me to them? Besides that, I suppose Demoux was the surviving cast member not otherwise occupied. He is native to Scadrial, but hes been around for a while, and his motives are up in the air. They came from Ashyn, another world in the Rosharan system, before taking up their eternal struggle against Odium and the Fused. WebThe Final Empire []. He Whether we get answers in the forthcomingRhythm of War or Brandon is reserving that knowledge for later on in the Cosmere sequence, there is plenty to dig into right now! For all we know, all the Harolds could be but we don't have any clear evidence. and then there are the three guys that were looking for hoid in the way of kings (galladon, demoux, and someone we don't know). Demoux was their leader. What would happen if the concentrated power would harm or kill? Shai is also another Worldhopper.. if I am not mistaken.. is that confrimed? But as the peoples of these worlds grow, it becomes more and more likely that others will eventually learn of the secrets of the Shardpools. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. How any of them found their way off their respective worlds is as yet unknown, but its possible Demoux was recruited by his partner, Aslydin. In The Hero of Ages, Demoux gets together with a woman named Aslydin. He's then seen on Roshar in The Way of Kings. Stormlight Archive Wiki is a FANDOM Books Community. Well, the -din suffix is rather common on Roshar, so he might be referring to that? There could be any number of caches that went undiscovered prior to Harmony. Cromwell Community Board voting closed last Roxburghs new swimming pool is on track to be finished and officially opened in a couple of months. The short answer is Shadesmar. And Iyatil and Demoux and Sandersons published Cosmere books contain highly visible worldhoppers like the Vessels, Hoid, and Khrissalla, but they also contain I pushed a red button on the screen without wanting to does anyone know how to stop the effets. I could have sworn there was some hubbub a while ago that the name of a one of Strafes servants was mentioned as a soldier at the end of WoR. yep! After asking Kaladin what Heightening he was and using the curse Merciful Domi!, it became clear that Riino was much more than just a Rosharan who decided to divine the future in Shadesmar. A Feruchemist who could naturally use the atiummind, though - whether being a full Feruchemist, or if there were such a thing as an atium Ferring, which it doesn't seem like there ought to be any more after the Catacendre- could use a medallion for A-atium to access the Allomantic ability every now and then to burn atium to Compound, and create or add to some highly Invested atiummind (keyed to themself). Roman religious beliefs changed slowly over time. A. So Brandon has confirmed that Demoux's partner from The Hero of Ages, Aslydin, is a worldhopper and a member of the 17th shard, and that her name's ethnicity "should strike us." Perhaps Elsecallers and Willshapers can use Shadesmar like a sort of warp space, allowing them to leap across cosmic distances. Sel is nearly impossible to visit, and very dangerous at that. 82 Brownston Street but that still don't tell us how it actually is done. https://wob.coppermind.net/adv_search/?tags=demoux. Khriss is likely 3). And we have WoB that a terriswoman is also hopping around. Welcome back, Cosmere fans! The Cryptics are hard to ply for information, but if one listens carefully, one can decipher meaning in their circling words. Mine you, it means that SA contains spoilers for Nightblood (it means both Vasher and Nightblood survived the sequel), but Vasher may have been a bit into worldhopping before that Warbreaker. World hopping is not mentioned in Mistborn that I can recall, so Brandon can introduce it however he wants or not at all. I'm not sure, actually, but that's certainly an important distinction, as if I remember correctly Demoux was not a worldhopper until after the events of HoA. (I had this crazy theory, which I wrote up at one point with details but don't remember any more, is that he and Spook gained access to spikes for Feruchemy - or even a host with full Feruchemy built into it - via the First Generation of kandra, who were originally human Feruchemists like Rashek had been, and perhaps still were on a Spiritual or Cognitive level the way we see former koloss appearing as human again in Secret History), You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Why should we think that similar type characters wouldn't be within the 17th? She's too involved with events on Roshar to really consider going on a pleasure trip around the Cosmere, so even if she technically knows how to worldhop, I don't think she's really all that interested in doing so right now Its a good point about Jasnah.. but i would have probably thought the same thing about Vasher till we saw him on Roshar.. Anythings possible.. Nope, Warbreaker occurs quite a bit (about three hundred years or so) before SA, and Nightblood, as a direct sequel to Warbreaker also occurs quite a bit beforehand as well.